Stuck on Stupid Part 1
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I loved how he only got three out of ten commandments, and they all started with the word "don'". "Uhm... don' lye, uhm... don' keel, uhm... don' steal..."
He is right, though, about the ten commandments. they're not a bad thing, but we have this nifty document called the Constitution of the United States that mandates a seperation of church and state.
Honestly, I don't think he's even read the constitution. I doubt that he'd be able to tell you what amendment separates church and state.
No where does the Constitution ever use the Phrase seperation of church and state, that came from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a group called the Danburry Baptists. What the Constitution does say is, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" It's in the first ammendment, you should read it.
I didn't say "what amendment includes the phrase Separation of church and state." I said; "What amendment separates church and state." That would be the first amendment, in the exact verbiage you quoted. The constitution doesn't say crap about suppressing evidence from an unlawful police search but that's in the bill of rights also.
As has become evident over the last 228 years (the US Constitution was ratified in 1788), it is not he actual verbiage of the document that defines its powers, but rather, the interpolation of the intent of our founding revolutionaries words. Much of the Constitution is ambiguous, and as the English language has evolved over the last two centuries, words have metamorphosised to mean other than originally intended. How is it possible that slave owners could talk about liberty, and freedom for themselves when they were guilty of denying those very inalienable rights to their fellow man? The hypocrisy of the southern contingent of the contental congress was and is one of the strongest arguments against the Constitution's validity. But the original Constitution makes little reference to slavery at all. That was the compromise reached, to cement the burgeoning nation some things were purposely ignored.
To me, it seems strange that we place so much stock in what things like "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" mean, nor how posting something that is pivotal in the major western religions like the ten commandments - violates those words. Religious iconography abounds in public works, and its idiots, every last one of ‘em, who think that by placing (or removing) religious icons from government edifices they are enforcing the constitution. But, it’s far better that they are so insanely focused on this topic than on something that I truly give a shit about.
You made one point that I whole heartedly agree with. It’s a very good thing that people obsessed about religious iconography in the public sphere are kept engrossed with trivialities. This is why I love the “war on Christmas”. It keeps loonies from both sides of the culture war too busy to really annoy me.
My point in the original post is simple. The people who urgently feel the need to have the government erect a shrine to protestant christen faith are fools at best. At worst they are opportunistic crooks. They don’t want to use their own money. Instead they steal money from productive people to further ends inappropriate to government. This particular jackass doesn’t even know the content of the 10 commandments. I can only assume that he’s not motivated by faith but instead by the desire to use the public money to buy support from the faithful.
True that.
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